they want to shrink government. they were elected to shrink government. and whether it's defaulted, whether it's shutting down the government, whether it's allowing sequestration to kick in, they're going to make it happen in the next couple of months. and nobody knows how that will play out. >> we may just find out what happens when we reach the debt limit. jim, in spite of what the white house's grand plans for gun reform may be, there still may be not a lot of backing in congress. if you look at even republicans in the midwest and republicans in the north, how does this play out right now in congress? >> well, right. there's going to be a lot of focus on gun control. there has been since the shooting, and there will be when the president unveils his package today. i would caution people to look at the vote count inside the house republican conference. there is almost no support for doing anything on new gun control, nothing on magazine size, nothing on assault weapon ban, nothing beyond maybe tightening background checks. even moderate republicans in s